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Saturday 17 September 2016

The cult (per)version of Step One


Our correspondent writes: 

David B and Step 1. 

In the 1990's I attended the Vision For You cult group held in Eaton Square, London. This was when David B, founder of the cult movement in the UK, was still alive and holding court with his harem of young male sponsees (not for nothing was he called the Queen of Chelsea, but I digress). One thing I learned was that David B's definition of step one of the AA program was different from what is to be found in AA literature, and totally confusing to newcomers and others. 

David B emphatically said many times that (I quote) “if you don't do everything your sponsor says you do not have step 1.” He taught that “doing what you are told by a sponsor” is what step 1 was all about. Part of that blind obedience was doing 6 or more Daily Suggestions which he had printed out on a small card of similar size to the Just For Today Card. Note: he was making group fellowship depend upon a card he had made up himself without any consultation with other groups or AA as a whole: thus breaking the AA Traditions (Tradition 4 in particular), which still to this day is a continuing source of disunity and confusion within the fellowship. I recall a young man who attended the Visions cult back then who was given the nickname “6 Things” because he always shared he did the so-called 6 things on the Daily Suggestion card every day and that is what he thought kept him sober. One evening he failed to turn up for the regular cult meeting and returning some weeks later he informed us that he had been drinking and the excuse he gave was that he had forgotten to do one of the 6 things. A number of the more experienced members in the meeting smiled when they heard him say that. They smiled because they knew it was a pretty lame excuse of the kind alcoholics make when they really just want to carry on drinking anyway. As it says in the Big Book (page 132) “Outsiders are sometimes shocked when we bust into merriment over a seemingly tragic experience out of the past... “ “Mr. 6 Things” stayed sober for a short while longer, then he disappeared altogether. Sadly we heard he was drinking again. It's a shame I cannot remember his real name, just his cult nickname “6 Things”. Clearly this poor confused young man had no idea what AA's step 1 really was, other than the obedience nonsense David B had made up. One of the 6 things was to ring your sponsor every day and do everything he tells you. I'm 100% certain David B didn't do 6 things every day. He didn't have a sponsor, so how could he? So by his own definition he did not have step 1 himself. The irony of that did not seem to dawn on him. However many of his followers eventually woke up to his dishonesty and hypocrisy and left the Visions cult, went into mainstream AA, and grew up. But Mr. 6 Things came to AA and never really heard the true authentic message of Step 1 as described in AA literature where there is no mention of blindly obeying sponsors or following made up suggestion cards. Instead Mr. 6 Things was just another human guinea pig for David B's colossal ego. David B thought he knew better than AA and could concoct his own literature on a whim and dishonestly pass it off as AA to the newcomer. To this day the fraud continues within the cult groups that are descended from his sponsorship. His bad example with regard to breaking the Traditions by composing his own literature is now being copied and continued. The card itself mutates, getting ever more complicated, I saw one recently that had over 20 daily tasks for the newcomer to worry about. No more pretence of “six things”, it was a neurotics charter for imprisoning newcomers in the author's Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. Not so much relax, take it easy, and easy does it (sayings to be found in the Big Book pages 86 & 135), and, of course “Keep it Simple” - but rather “Make it More Complicated and fret about it”. I feel sorry for newcomers who stumble in on these lawless cult groups. What they are encountering is not AA at all, but a dangerous warped mutation founded upon lies.

I doubt David B had step 1 at all in any real sense. It is known that he invited newcomers and sponsees to have dinner with him at his flat in Chelsea. Guests at these dinners noticed that there was always a bottle of red wine in his kitchen. He freely boasted that he added red wine to his recipes “to give it that extra something” in his words. Well, it certainly gave his dishes something extra - it's called alcohol. It is a scientific fact that in spite of cooking, even for a long time, a significant percentage of alcohol still remains after cooking.......




Alcohol content after cooking – see highlighted column
Source: USDA Table of Nutrient Retention Factors 

.....Remembering that alcoholism is an illness of physical allergy and mental obsession, one has to consider how a man, who was an alcoholic himself, was not only experimenting with wine in his own food at the very least, but also feeding it to other alcoholics who came to him for help and trusted him. This, combined with his nonsensical and unfounded claims that step 1 was all about obeying sponsors (i.e. him) and doing tasks on a card he made up himself in defiance of AA Tradition and protocol, It seems conclusive to me that not only did he have delusions of grandeur, and was a selfish narcissist who did not truly care at all for the welfare of others (all symptoms of alcoholism), but, as a compulsive alcoholic, what really mattered to him was feeding and playing around with the prime object of his obsession, namely alcohol. And this was the founder of the AA cult movement in the UK.” 

Comment: There is NO safe level of alcohol for an alcoholic .. 100% abstinence is what AA is about ….. So much for the recovery 'experts'!! They'll end up killing you!

Cheers

The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

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9 comments:

  1. Heard a classic the other day..was at a lovely small regular AA meeting in deepest darkest Surrey...temporary Secretary had an invited a nice chap up from one of the growing cult meetings in Portsmouth run by "Boxer Frank"...Young Frank is pushing the Wally P yellow book crap fyi..anyhooch...said speaker does a decent effort at a chair but when it comes to closing the meeting he states that this said Pompey Guru has found a better way of saying the Serenity Prayer...it should be "we..and Us" not I... firstly that makes it a religious prayer and a religious God as opposed to our said program of it all being a personal HP..but....how big is this "humble" guys ego that he's comfortable changing the prayer that aa adopted over 80 years ago. Recovery is all about looking at yourself whilst helping others...these guys are permanent 2 steppers!!

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    1. Never heard of boxer Frank but I appreciate the warning. There is a genius in Ealing London who has printed his own version of the Big Book - except he has missed out all the bits that he doesn't like. But he has added his own .. (ahem)..”poetry” to his edition. He then gives out this fraudulent version of the Big Book free to the newcomer in the name of AA. He also hands out, in the name of AA, printed cards with numerous daily suggestions on it, made up, produced and printed all by himself. Newcomers walk away from his meetings thinking they have AA literature in their hands when, of course, they have not. I know this because they have talked to me about it many times. They are confused, and often angry, because they have been misled. The gentleman committing this fraud is convinced he is following AA Tradition because his sponsor told him he was, (and not because he humbly asked AA). And his sponsor didn't consult AA either. In his mind a sponsor's opinion comes before AA. Why? Because his sponsor told him so. We have here an example of the fallacy known as circular reasoning. And if you dare to point out how wrong all this is you get called a hypocrite or even a murderer or whatever other idiotic and libellous insult comes into their heads. Evasion and malicious lies are their only defence.

      If AA says one thing and a sponsor says another, the sponsor is wrong. Sponsors are individual alcoholics who need AA, not the other way around. Tradition 1 means that AA fellowship comes first, not individuals however much of a self-important “spiritual genius” they think they are.

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    2. You dont expect joys/roadies to tell the truth do you? We have a saying here: if a roadie has his mouth open hes telling lies. And theres nothing humble about joys/roadies. I used to hang out with them & I know what they say. They badmouth other meetings & make fun of folks who share bout being in pain. There was a woman here who shared she was in pain. They X shared her with their usual bullshit & after the meeting they made jokes about her & laughed behind her back. She left in tears. Never seen her again. Their hero Clancy makes fun of disabled folks. They think they r the best aa team, the aa macho men, the SuperSober (the SS) master breed & the rest of us punters r inferior sickos & losers. And if you tell them how much that attitude sucks they play the victim card. So theyr the ones who are the hypocrites. Hypocrites in suits dressed up fancy to look good , but inside theyr full of shit. Easy to figure that underneath theyre very angry & insecure. They r the real cry babies not that woman. They gatecrash normal meetings to dictate to us how we should all work their version of aa ~ MASSIVE YAWN ~ they always go as a group like a gang to bully normal aa members. Like all bullies they need backup cuz theyr useless on their own. They try to shut folks up for speakin out. It aint gonna happen.Im glad theres now a page where normal aa folks have a voice.Cheers

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  2. I heard some folks looked on David B as a god & he used to tell folks “people call me god”. No wonder joys n roadies r batshit crazy if thats who they got their recovery from. No surprise that they dont know what step 1 is & run off to the liquor store n get drunk over the slightest thing. If my sponsor was messing round with alcohol Id sure as hell want to know about it & get another sober sponsor quick. But hey, if you tell the truth about their old sponsor/”god”, the roadie clones fly into a girly tantrum. CAST IRON PROOF they really are a personality cult & not AA.

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  3. If I was to invite aa buddies to my place for a meal, giving them food spiked with liquor would be the LAST thing Id do. No sane n sober person would do that. That old sponsor was playing god with sick peoples lives. What a mthrfkr! And then he was lecturing folks in aa about step 1..huh? Gimme a break. Thanks for the heads up on this info fellas. We need to know these facts when choosing a sponsor & who to hang out with in aa. We dont want a sponsor who got his message from that crazy old coot who flavored his gravy with red wine & then thought he was a god. We cant be too careful when were talking step 1 & our very lives are at stake can we? :) Cheers

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  4. I met David B. 3 or maybe 4, times. He was very strong on promoting Step 4 - his version of course, with 14 defects in the 3rd column (which is not as set out in the Big Book). I had a conversation with him and he told me he liked Mozart's opera “The Magic Flute” which reveals he had a very good taste in music. One thing I remember he said was “If you are not grateful for just simply being sober today, then you haven't suffered enough from alcohol” (or words to that effect). And he was totally right about that. If sobriety for today is not good enough for you, go back to the bottle and suffer some more active alcoholism. Hopefully that will convince you. The Big Book says something similar. But then David B. got involved in an extremist form of Catholicism and, because he didn't have any spiritual guidance (it is true he didn't have a sponsor), he misunderstood Mother (now Saint) Theresa of Calcutta about “obedience” and it all started going pear shaped after that. AA and religion don't mix. Which is why the AA founders broke away from the Oxford Group cult religion, and Bill W never became a Catholic even though, at one time, he seriously considered converting to that faith. Bill didn't convert for the sake of AA. He put AA before himself – an example of true humility and self-denial we could all learn from. I attended David B's funeral because at that time I respected the man. Anyway, whatever his good and bad points were, they are now 20 years in the past. Let him rest in peace.

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    1. Just to clarify. A person can follow a religion and also be a good AA member and that is not a problem. But if they start introducing the dogmas and practices of their particular religion into the AA program, and then, in the name of AA, pass that on to newcomers, sponsees etc, then that is problematic. Our preamble sums it up nicely “AA is not allied with any sect, denomination, politics, organization or institution....”

      I have my own personal faith which is entirely private to me. It is no one else's business. And I do not impose it on anyone else in AA either directly, or indirectly through “suggestions” not to be clearly found in AA literature, or grandiose notions of “guidance”.

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    2. What mother theresa said about anything has nothing to do with aa or staying sober. Its propaganda to convert newcomers to the catholic church. Sounds like this David B was just lookin for reasons to control folks. Spiking their food with liquor is something a sick control freak would do. He was sitting at the table enjoying a power trip over them. Sad thing is they didnt need him to stay sober in the first place. Nobody needs any of those Mr.Big Shot Sponsor jerk offs.

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  5. ..been readin up on Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD).. “grandiose behaviour, fantasies of power, a lack of empathy for others & a pathological need to impress.” Yes sir, thats roadies. Totally, especially the sponsors. Always knew there was a special screw loose with those fakers in suits. Thanks to u guys I know their craziness is called NPD. “Welcome to the Plymouth Road to NPD Group. No one likes us because we suck!” ... Cheers.

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